Hey Greta, you need to do some investigating.I just heard that Michelle Obama has 22 aides, when all the other first ladies have had only 1 or 2. This is sickening because this is on the tax payer. I thought the government was broke.
i not a lawyer but the healthcare bill passed last saturday was illegal! its againnst the 5th aand 10TH admenment.no where in the constitution dose it force you to buy anything!if the senate passed a healthcare bill lot of seenators and representives will lose thier seats in congress!
Hallucinating? NO! Perhaps you are hallucinating, the people who will save money looking toward the elections next year are not! I am saving even now, hoping to help those I agree with. We will not be Idle, as we know the value of hard work, If we did not the Liberal Democrats Could not be taxing us at such high rates. No, the tax payers will WORK to throw them out of office. You see we understand the Interest rates will rise and that most other nations will drop our dollar, sooner or later. Bummer is finding it harder to borrow more $billions right now, they are now printing, that will further de-value our dollar, buy now those things you figure you will need later. Because,...Our government owns the Banks who hold all the paper on all the BAD LOANS, they intend to rent those homes rather than even look for a buyer. Why is that? With fewer houses that appear on the books to be in default the economy LOOKS BETTER, THE HOUSING MARKET appears to IMPROVE....DOES IT? Ahh, That is a Question???? Well, I'm tired, worked all morning am headed to the shower, so you decide. My opinion was given, the bummer economy is built on shaking sands. His policy's may well bankrupt America.
To those calling the Devout Followers of Bummer Fools? No I doubt that. Do any of you remember Bette Middler in the movie Hocus Pocus, a Halloween Spoof, I watched it with the grand kids just a week or so ago,..the Song I put a spell on you,. and now your mine.captured my attention after listening to a few Town Halls and the Democrats lack of understanding or caring at hearing the voice of the people,..they shrugged them off, marginalized them,..if you say supernatural or fanatical, to describe the followers, it makes small difference. At least,..that is my opinion. Now if any of you are old enough you may have witnessed the same kind of devotion, loyalty, fanaticism displayed in the actions and deeds of the followers of Hitler, Stalin, Mao ETC. right down to our present days with the followers of Castro and Chavez. We witness the very same fanatical loyalty exhibited by their followers,.. no matter what you call such fanatical loyalty the actions of the leaders and very devoted followers..have caused WORLD WARS,.. to have been fought to save others from such a fate,..the same kind of obtuse mental aberrations and fixations has resulted in the death, the extermination of millions,..we all hope nothing like that ever happens again....but what else is there to say when the same kind fanaticism, because loyalty is not the word for this. When such fanaticism is exhibited over and over again throughout history, why is it, we do not learn from that history? You may take all this as just the ramblings of an old guy, but I do believe we see the beginnings of such fanaticism taking hold today. We old guys who had fathers return from WW II know the history of the fanatical followers of certain leaders as do millions of others who studied history when they still taught it in our schools. I really don't care to see even a small portion of that kind of history repeated. I have kids, grand kids to consider, they will be FORCED to pay for this financial mess Bummer and followers are in the process of making today, and still try to live their lives. Come on, with 10.2 % unemployment and Bummers making monstrous piles of Debt out the Wazoo,....they are going to IMPOSE FINES on any citizen not buying into their Socialist Health Care boondoggle? I MEAN, THESE ARE FORCED BUY IN's ,.. ORDERS FROM BUMMER ON HOW YOUR MONEY WILL BE SPENT,..AND YOU STILL CLAIM TO BE A CITIZEN OF WHAT WAS ONCE THE FREEST NATION ON EARTH? You think This ORDER FROM BUMMER is YOUR DAD AND MOMS America? My opinion, Bummer policies will be the cause of the crash our Already strained system...That, IS ALL! My opinion!
The House won yesterday but this also has to go to the Senate !
chances it will pass the Senate ? a Very good chance ! A POLITICIAN , is Always a POLITICIAN ! Yesterday we heard Bonyer resight every page he could ! did that mean he was " AGAINST IT"? hell no ! all it ment was that he was playing Politics !as usual, A Power Play day ! THIS HC BILL should have NEVER BEEN writen to begin with! IT isn't the Health or lack of ! It's MONEY! AND WHO HAS THE P O W E R ! next,Press conf. obama gloats
Most of the people applauding this vote are simply to stupid to comprehend all that it means. Obama Sycophants will not only surrender their freedom but lose more of their cash they they thought they'd save. This is our savior's next big error beside the stimulus, cap and trade and cash for junkers. On Nov. 2, the Congressional Budget Office estimated what the plans will likely cost. An individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance will have to pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, which is 17% of his pre-tax income. A family earning $102,100 a year before taxes will have to pay a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of its pre-tax income. Individuals and families earning less than these amounts will be eligible for subsidies paid directly to their insurer.
the brilliance here is how the republicans and the insurance companies got working class people to protest on their behalf. If any of you idiots had a catastrophic illness, your insurance company buddies would do anything to drop your coverage. This bill is a first step in relinquishing the insurance company's strangle hold on us, a first step towards the ultimate goal of single payer, which every civilized country in the world has.
elections have consequences..... dems will be in stronger in 2010 and more stronger in 2012..... obama will be re-elected courtesy of the zero liability voters...... repub had our chance and we messed it up ..... stop crying and whinning.... dems are so liked that NY 23 was handed over to them after 100+ years ...... please dont tell me they will be voted out..... joseph cao crossed the line to help them.... did any of them cross the line to help us anytime?
Reporting from Washington - At least one Democratic political strategist has gotten a blunt warning from the White House to never appear on Fox News Channel, an outlet that presidential aides have depicted as not so much a news-gathering operation as a political opponent bent on damaging the Obama administration.
Political consultants are a staple of cable television talk shows, analyzing current events based on their own experiences working on campaigns or in government.
One Democratic strategist said that shortly after an appearance on Fox, he got a phone call from a White House official telling him not to be a guest on the show again. The call had an intimidating tone, he said.
The message was, " 'We better not see you on again,' " said the strategist, who spoke on condition of anonymity so as not to run afoul of the White House. An implicit suggestion, he said, was that "clients might stop using you if you continue."
In urging Democratic consultants to spurn Fox, White House officials might be trying to isolate the network and make it appear more partisan.
A boycott by Democratic strategists could also help drive the White House narrative that Fox is a fundamentally different creature than the other TV news networks. For their part, White House officials appear on Fox News -- but sporadically and with "eyes wide open," as one aide put it.
David Plouffe, the president's campaign manager and author of a new campaign book, "The Audacity to Win," was scheduled to appear on Fox's "On the Record" with Greta Van Susteren Thursday night as he promotes his book. His appearance, preempted by the breaking news of the shootings at Ft. Hood, Texas, has been rescheduled for Monday.
White House Communications Director Anita Dunn said Thursday night that she had checked with colleagues who "deal with TV issues" and they had not told people to avoid Fox. On the contrary, they had urged people to appear on the network, Dunn wrote in an e-mail.
But Patrick Caddell, a Fox News contributor and a former pollster for President Carter, said he has spoken to Democratic consultants who have been told by the White House to avoid appearances on Fox. He declined to give their names.
Caddell said he had not gotten that message himself from the White House. "They know better than to tell me anything like that," he said.
Caddell added: "I have heard that they've done that to others in not-too-subtle ways. I find it appalling. When the White House gets in the business of suppressing dissent and comment, particularly from its own party, it hurts itself."
The White House has taken an aggressive stance toward Fox. When President Obama appeared on five separate talk shows one Sunday in September, he avoided Fox.
"It would be foolish for us to just treat it like it's CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS," said a White House aide. "That doesn't make any sense. That would be like saying we're going to do [interviews] with the newsmagazines and we're going to do Time, Newsweek and the [conservative] National Review."
The aide spoke on condition of anonymity in order to talk more openly about the White House's thinking.
Last month, Dunn told CNN that Fox was, in effect, an "arm" of the Republican Party. Dunn said in an appearance on the rival cable network: "Let's not pretend they're a news network the way CNN is."
As the dust-up played out, Fox's senior vice president of news, Michael Clemente, countered: "Surprisingly, the White House continues to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about like jobs, healthcare and two wars."
Fox's commentators have been sharply critical of the Obama administration. After the president won the Nobel Peace Prize, Sean Hannity, who has a prime-time show on Fox, said he got the award for "trashing America."
The two sides seemed interested in easing tensions. On Oct. 28, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs met privately with Clemente.
But White House aides haven't changed their underlying view of Fox.
Fox's audience is by far the largest of the cable networks, with an average of more than 2.1 million viewers in prime-time this year. CNN is second with 932,000 prime-time viewers.
Fox's viewership is not what worries the White House, though. More troubling to White House aides is that other news organizations may uncritically follow stories that Fox has showcased.
The White House aide said: "Where some of the falsehoods become dangerous is when the rest of the media accepts them as fact and reports on them, either out of a desire to tap into Fox's news audience -- which you can understand, given where circulation and viewership rates are -- or as some sort of knee-jerk fear of being considered liberally biased, which is what conservatives have been saying of the mainstream media for years."
The White House's pugnacious approach to the network leaves some Democrats troubled.
Don Fowler, a former Democratic National Committee chairman, said in an interview: "This approach is out of sync with my conception of what the Obama administration stands for and what they're trying to do. I think they'll think better of it and this will be a passing phase."
The House Democrats will get what they deserve when they run for
re-election in 2010 and 2012. Rep. Dingell, good bye, remember your Town hall last summer! (available on you tube) Rep. Dingell, you didn't listen! The Democrats ruined our economy and now they want to ruin our health care and health care system. The DEMS are abusive to the US citizens pure and simple! (Especially to the Senior Citizens.) An army of citizens will now work to defeat these abusive DEM REPS. Justice will prevail.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 42% now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s down from 45% a week ago but unchanged from two weeks ago.
Fifty-four percent (54%) now oppose the legislative effort, up three points since last week.
Seventy-three percent (73%) of liberals support the plan, but just 18% of conservatives agree.
Only 23% of all voters Strongly Support the plan while nearly twice as man (44%) are Strongly Opposed.
As has been the case for months, Democrats favor the plan while Republicans and voters not affiliated with either major party are opposed. The latest numbers show support from 69% of those in the president’s party. The plan is opposed by 80% of Republicans and a plurality (48%) of unaffiliated voters.
HEALTHCARE BILL:...enable the real time (or near real time) determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service, with a specific physician, at a specific facility, on a specific date or range of dates, include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identification card or similar mechanism.
She lied. SOUNDS LIKE BIG BROTHER
Did Stupak get a gauantee that his amendment will survive conference. If not he and his fellow pro lifers were sold a bill of goods...the bill when it comes out of committee wil have the abortion funding in it and Stupak will be able to do nothing about it
My heart aches and is sickened by the faces of those elite members of Congress that have bargained with Satan. Patriotic Americans are not hushed yet...we must continue to use our voices and remove these traitors from office...all the way to the top!!!!
Younger sisterReport
You must have employer sponsored health care. The premium unlikely doubled, just your portion.
November 8, 2009 at 12:45 am ________yes, the premium doubled. the premium is what i pay. a couple of years ago my healthcare cost only came out of one check a month, now it comes out of every check and it's higher. now what i believe you're talking about is the policy cost. honestly, i don't know what's happened with that, but i'd be willing to bet it went up too.
many don't realize the significance of the dems picking up two votes in last tuesdays election. one of them came from a district that voted repub for over the past 100 years. looks like the conservatives eating moderate goppers is not a good move. i guess as long as the rino is gone right???
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kathaleen
Reform is needed but not government take over. Remember they work for us and we can fire them.
curious
Hey Greta, you need to do some investigating.I just heard that Michelle Obama has 22 aides, when all the other first ladies have had only 1 or 2. This is sickening because this is on the tax payer. I thought the government was broke.
jtrailroad
i not a lawyer but the healthcare bill passed last saturday was illegal! its againnst the 5th aand 10TH admenment.no where in the constitution dose it force you to buy anything!if the senate passed a healthcare bill lot of seenators and representives will lose thier seats in congress!
anothertaxslave
It's interesting to observe how self-serving political corruption and arrogance in America feed on public apathy. Sad.
millertime
Hallucinating? NO! Perhaps you are hallucinating, the people who will save money looking toward the elections next year are not! I am saving even now, hoping to help those I agree with. We will not be Idle, as we know the value of hard work, If we did not the Liberal Democrats Could not be taxing us at such high rates. No, the tax payers will WORK to throw them out of office. You see we understand the Interest rates will rise and that most other nations will drop our dollar, sooner or later. Bummer is finding it harder to borrow more $billions right now, they are now printing, that will further de-value our dollar, buy now those things you figure you will need later. Because,...Our government owns the Banks who hold all the paper on all the BAD LOANS, they intend to rent those homes rather than even look for a buyer. Why is that? With fewer houses that appear on the books to be in default the economy LOOKS BETTER, THE HOUSING MARKET appears to IMPROVE....DOES IT? Ahh, That is a Question???? Well, I'm tired, worked all morning am headed to the shower, so you decide. My opinion was given, the bummer economy is built on shaking sands. His policy's may well bankrupt America.
millertime
To those calling the Devout Followers of Bummer Fools? No I doubt that. Do any of you remember Bette Middler in the movie Hocus Pocus, a Halloween Spoof, I watched it with the grand kids just a week or so ago,..the Song I put a spell on you,. and now your mine.captured my attention after listening to a few Town Halls and the Democrats lack of understanding or caring at hearing the voice of the people,..they shrugged them off, marginalized them,..if you say supernatural or fanatical, to describe the followers, it makes small difference. At least,..that is my opinion. Now if any of you are old enough you may have witnessed the same kind of devotion, loyalty, fanaticism displayed in the actions and deeds of the followers of Hitler, Stalin, Mao ETC. right down to our present days with the followers of Castro and Chavez. We witness the very same fanatical loyalty exhibited by their followers,.. no matter what you call such fanatical loyalty the actions of the leaders and very devoted followers..have caused WORLD WARS,.. to have been fought to save others from such a fate,..the same kind of obtuse mental aberrations and fixations has resulted in the death, the extermination of millions,..we all hope nothing like that ever happens again....but what else is there to say when the same kind fanaticism, because loyalty is not the word for this. When such fanaticism is exhibited over and over again throughout history, why is it, we do not learn from that history? You may take all this as just the ramblings of an old guy, but I do believe we see the beginnings of such fanaticism taking hold today. We old guys who had fathers return from WW II know the history of the fanatical followers of certain leaders as do millions of others who studied history when they still taught it in our schools. I really don't care to see even a small portion of that kind of history repeated. I have kids, grand kids to consider, they will be FORCED to pay for this financial mess Bummer and followers are in the process of making today, and still try to live their lives. Come on, with 10.2 % unemployment and Bummers making monstrous piles of Debt out the Wazoo,....they are going to IMPOSE FINES on any citizen not buying into their Socialist Health Care boondoggle? I MEAN, THESE ARE FORCED BUY IN's ,.. ORDERS FROM BUMMER ON HOW YOUR MONEY WILL BE SPENT,..AND YOU STILL CLAIM TO BE A CITIZEN OF WHAT WAS ONCE THE FREEST NATION ON EARTH? You think This ORDER FROM BUMMER is YOUR DAD AND MOMS America? My opinion, Bummer policies will be the cause of the crash our Already strained system...That, IS ALL! My opinion!
Grand Ole Flag
The House won yesterday but this also has to go to the Senate ! chances it will pass the Senate ? a Very good chance ! A POLITICIAN , is Always a POLITICIAN ! Yesterday we heard Bonyer resight every page he could ! did that mean he was " AGAINST IT"? hell no ! all it ment was that he was playing Politics !as usual, A Power Play day ! THIS HC BILL should have NEVER BEEN writen to begin with! IT isn't the Health or lack of ! It's MONEY! AND WHO HAS THE P O W E R ! next,Press conf. obama gloats
Tom G
Most of the people applauding this vote are simply to stupid to comprehend all that it means. Obama Sycophants will not only surrender their freedom but lose more of their cash they they thought they'd save. This is our savior's next big error beside the stimulus, cap and trade and cash for junkers. On Nov. 2, the Congressional Budget Office estimated what the plans will likely cost. An individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance will have to pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, which is 17% of his pre-tax income. A family earning $102,100 a year before taxes will have to pay a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of its pre-tax income. Individuals and families earning less than these amounts will be eligible for subsidies paid directly to their insurer.
LOST AGAIN LOSERS! LOL
the brilliance here is how the republicans and the insurance companies got working class people to protest on their behalf. If any of you idiots had a catastrophic illness, your insurance company buddies would do anything to drop your coverage. This bill is a first step in relinquishing the insurance company's strangle hold on us, a first step towards the ultimate goal of single payer, which every civilized country in the world has.
Brandon
Now----I bet Obama makes a decision on the war. The slimmy snake played it safe until after the health care vote. Just wait and see.
deeb lteif
elections have consequences..... dems will be in stronger in 2010 and more stronger in 2012..... obama will be re-elected courtesy of the zero liability voters...... repub had our chance and we messed it up ..... stop crying and whinning.... dems are so liked that NY 23 was handed over to them after 100+ years ...... please dont tell me they will be voted out..... joseph cao crossed the line to help them.... did any of them cross the line to help us anytime?
lA time article
Reporting from Washington - At least one Democratic political strategist has gotten a blunt warning from the White House to never appear on Fox News Channel, an outlet that presidential aides have depicted as not so much a news-gathering operation as a political opponent bent on damaging the Obama administration. Political consultants are a staple of cable television talk shows, analyzing current events based on their own experiences working on campaigns or in government. One Democratic strategist said that shortly after an appearance on Fox, he got a phone call from a White House official telling him not to be a guest on the show again. The call had an intimidating tone, he said. The message was, " 'We better not see you on again,' " said the strategist, who spoke on condition of anonymity so as not to run afoul of the White House. An implicit suggestion, he said, was that "clients might stop using you if you continue." In urging Democratic consultants to spurn Fox, White House officials might be trying to isolate the network and make it appear more partisan. A boycott by Democratic strategists could also help drive the White House narrative that Fox is a fundamentally different creature than the other TV news networks. For their part, White House officials appear on Fox News -- but sporadically and with "eyes wide open," as one aide put it. David Plouffe, the president's campaign manager and author of a new campaign book, "The Audacity to Win," was scheduled to appear on Fox's "On the Record" with Greta Van Susteren Thursday night as he promotes his book. His appearance, preempted by the breaking news of the shootings at Ft. Hood, Texas, has been rescheduled for Monday. White House Communications Director Anita Dunn said Thursday night that she had checked with colleagues who "deal with TV issues" and they had not told people to avoid Fox. On the contrary, they had urged people to appear on the network, Dunn wrote in an e-mail. But Patrick Caddell, a Fox News contributor and a former pollster for President Carter, said he has spoken to Democratic consultants who have been told by the White House to avoid appearances on Fox. He declined to give their names. Caddell said he had not gotten that message himself from the White House. "They know better than to tell me anything like that," he said. Caddell added: "I have heard that they've done that to others in not-too-subtle ways. I find it appalling. When the White House gets in the business of suppressing dissent and comment, particularly from its own party, it hurts itself." The White House has taken an aggressive stance toward Fox. When President Obama appeared on five separate talk shows one Sunday in September, he avoided Fox. "It would be foolish for us to just treat it like it's CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS," said a White House aide. "That doesn't make any sense. That would be like saying we're going to do [interviews] with the newsmagazines and we're going to do Time, Newsweek and the [conservative] National Review." The aide spoke on condition of anonymity in order to talk more openly about the White House's thinking. Last month, Dunn told CNN that Fox was, in effect, an "arm" of the Republican Party. Dunn said in an appearance on the rival cable network: "Let's not pretend they're a news network the way CNN is." As the dust-up played out, Fox's senior vice president of news, Michael Clemente, countered: "Surprisingly, the White House continues to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about like jobs, healthcare and two wars." Fox's commentators have been sharply critical of the Obama administration. After the president won the Nobel Peace Prize, Sean Hannity, who has a prime-time show on Fox, said he got the award for "trashing America." The two sides seemed interested in easing tensions. On Oct. 28, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs met privately with Clemente. But White House aides haven't changed their underlying view of Fox. Fox's audience is by far the largest of the cable networks, with an average of more than 2.1 million viewers in prime-time this year. CNN is second with 932,000 prime-time viewers. Fox's viewership is not what worries the White House, though. More troubling to White House aides is that other news organizations may uncritically follow stories that Fox has showcased. The White House aide said: "Where some of the falsehoods become dangerous is when the rest of the media accepts them as fact and reports on them, either out of a desire to tap into Fox's news audience -- which you can understand, given where circulation and viewership rates are -- or as some sort of knee-jerk fear of being considered liberally biased, which is what conservatives have been saying of the mainstream media for years." The White House's pugnacious approach to the network leaves some Democrats troubled. Don Fowler, a former Democratic National Committee chairman, said in an interview: "This approach is out of sync with my conception of what the Obama administration stands for and what they're trying to do. I think they'll think better of it and this will be a passing phase."
Jo
The House Democrats will get what they deserve when they run for re-election in 2010 and 2012. Rep. Dingell, good bye, remember your Town hall last summer! (available on you tube) Rep. Dingell, you didn't listen! The Democrats ruined our economy and now they want to ruin our health care and health care system. The DEMS are abusive to the US citizens pure and simple! (Especially to the Senior Citizens.) An army of citizens will now work to defeat these abusive DEM REPS. Justice will prevail.
Not B. Rhoades The Marxist
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 42% now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s down from 45% a week ago but unchanged from two weeks ago. Fifty-four percent (54%) now oppose the legislative effort, up three points since last week. Seventy-three percent (73%) of liberals support the plan, but just 18% of conservatives agree. Only 23% of all voters Strongly Support the plan while nearly twice as man (44%) are Strongly Opposed. As has been the case for months, Democrats favor the plan while Republicans and voters not affiliated with either major party are opposed. The latest numbers show support from 69% of those in the president’s party. The plan is opposed by 80% of Republicans and a plurality (48%) of unaffiliated voters.
Linda, LPN
HEALTHCARE BILL:...enable the real time (or near real time) determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service, with a specific physician, at a specific facility, on a specific date or range of dates, include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identification card or similar mechanism. She lied. SOUNDS LIKE BIG BROTHER
bruce nahin
Did Stupak get a gauantee that his amendment will survive conference. If not he and his fellow pro lifers were sold a bill of goods...the bill when it comes out of committee wil have the abortion funding in it and Stupak will be able to do nothing about it
Constance
My heart aches and is sickened by the faces of those elite members of Congress that have bargained with Satan. Patriotic Americans are not hushed yet...we must continue to use our voices and remove these traitors from office...all the way to the top!!!!
political tracker
Younger sisterReport You must have employer sponsored health care. The premium unlikely doubled, just your portion. November 8, 2009 at 12:45 am ________yes, the premium doubled. the premium is what i pay. a couple of years ago my healthcare cost only came out of one check a month, now it comes out of every check and it's higher. now what i believe you're talking about is the policy cost. honestly, i don't know what's happened with that, but i'd be willing to bet it went up too.
political tracker
many don't realize the significance of the dems picking up two votes in last tuesdays election. one of them came from a district that voted repub for over the past 100 years. looks like the conservatives eating moderate goppers is not a good move. i guess as long as the rino is gone right???
Sad for Seniors
Pelosi has just sold her fellow senior citizens out! (She'll be 70 years old in March)