As we try to count votes on health care legislation, check out the email I just received from my FNC colleague on the hill, Trish Tuner:
From: Turner, Trish
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:10 PM
To:
Subject: ***Evan Bayh uncommitted
Former governor-turned-senator Bayh says he’s uncommitted on this “opt out” public option.
Says he likes that there’s “not a one-size-fits-all answer from Washington – that he does “like the fact that the states do have some discretion to allow for their unique circumstances” – but he says “there are a variety of things that i think might work better” (wont say what – but starts to say “trigger”).
“The question is is this enough flexibility for states to account for their own circumstances. And the answer to that is perhaps. But I’d like to wait to see what’s in the language”.
Says there are a lot bigger concerns for him -- especially provisions that might “substantially increase the deficit” --- says “I would just have a very hard time supporting something that would do that.”
Wants to see an independent analysis (CBO).
Bayh has asked CBO for an analysis of what this means for premiums for people – will the cost of insurance go up? (speaking about the overall reform effort)
Q: What does this mean for his cloture vote? What have you told Reid?
Well I told the leader if there are provisions included int his that would dramatically increase the deficit in future years, I would have just a very hard time moving forward (aka: voting for cloture) on something like that. So that really is my primary concern.
BOTTOM LINE: BAYH IS UNCOMMITTED. HE SAYS “THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS” – AND HE WANTS TO SEE THE DETAILS, BUT THAT THE OVERALL BILL GIVES HIM GREATER HEARTBURN THAN THIS ‘OPT OUT’ PROVISION.
How many House Democrat's will follow Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer over the cliff in 2010? We will see a HUGE TRANSITION in the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES in 2010. This 111th Congress are not "WISDOM KEEPERS" but "STUPIDITY KEEPERS" INSTEAD.
WELL THE RIGHT HAS BEEN PROVED WRONG ONCE AGAIN! SHALL WE KEEP TRYING RIGHTIES? LOL! FACE IT. EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR AND STAND UP FOR IS CORRUPT!! WHAT'S NEW?
I guess you won't be seeing this story any time soon on Fox News (although they reported ad nauseum that CIA's version of "facts" when this was news)...
Pelosi to the CIA.....YOU LIE!
Given that CIA has not changed one iota since the Church Committee revelations of CIA's truly amazing incompetence, it would be easier to count the number of times CIA told the truth to Congress. One should simply assume that CIA is lying any time it says anything (this is especially true about the DCIA).
the CIA lied people died?
CIA missed 9/11, got the WMD intell wrong and 'caused' the Iraqi invasion (according to the bushies) and now the CIA lied to Congress? Abolish the CIA it does not work and it is dangerously incompetent. What else can we conclude?
I demand an apology from everyone out there who questioned Ms. Pelosi's statement that the CIA withheld information. Any Republican sympathizer commenting on this topic must start with such an apology or their comments carry no weight.
Democrats on the Intelligence Committee have concluded that the CIA did not fully inform Congress about the use of enhanced interrogation techniques during a September 2002 briefing.
The new report seemingly validates House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) claim earlier this year that she was lied to about the program.
Gingrich also lashed out at his critics. "If some people in the Republican Party want to go around the country purging everyone they disagree with, they're going to rapidly make this a minority party for a generation.
On Sunday, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich expressed concern with the latest Weekly Standard cover that identifies Limbaugh, Beck, and former Alaska governor Sarah Palin as the faces of the GOP. "You know, you can have a very, very intense movement of 20 percent," Gingrich argued, referring to their respective bases of support, adding, "[but] you can't govern." Indeed, Gingrich has been making the very same arguments in a new intramural dispute over which conservative candidate to support in New York's 23rd Congressional District special election coming up next month -- a dispute that has split various factions within the conservative movement.
"...perhaps if were were not always trying to clean up Africa and Asia, our health parameters would appear ok." ************************* Perhaps if we were not spending billions of dollars on two wars (one for no reason at all), we could provide affordable health care and quality education for those in THIS country who are in need.
"Because Jesus does not want us to idolize and worship being poor. There are those who are poor due to circumstances and those who are 'professionally' poor. Jesus admonished his disciples that the 'poor' are with you always." *************** I hardly think helping those less fortunate is considered idolizing or worshiping being poor. Will you tell me the scripture where Jesus admonished his disciples that the 'poor' are with you always. 1 John 3:17-18 - "If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth."
"...so Jesus would be opposed to everyone in the USA having healthcare????????" *********************Matthew 25:44-46 - “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’ “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”
For almost a century, presidents and members of Congress have tried and failed to provide universal health benefits to Americans. The cost of health care has spiraled; in 2008, one in six dollars was spent on health care, and an estimated 46 million people were without coverage.
We've talked about the US health care ranking before. You have to look at what they are using to determine how every country ranks, NOT just the number.
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Cordell Ferrell
How many House Democrat's will follow Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer over the cliff in 2010? We will see a HUGE TRANSITION in the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES in 2010. This 111th Congress are not "WISDOM KEEPERS" but "STUPIDITY KEEPERS" INSTEAD.
AL
WELL THE RIGHT HAS BEEN PROVED WRONG ONCE AGAIN! SHALL WE KEEP TRYING RIGHTIES? LOL! FACE IT. EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR AND STAND UP FOR IS CORRUPT!! WHAT'S NEW?
tweekie B
I am sure this will be the lead story on Fox all night. Beck, BillO and Hannity will be falling all over themselves apologizing.
WHERE IS THIS OH SO FAIR AND BALANCED SUPPOSED NEWS??? LOL
I guess you won't be seeing this story any time soon on Fox News (although they reported ad nauseum that CIA's version of "facts" when this was news)... Pelosi to the CIA.....YOU LIE!
McCant
To the conservatives "Burn" I Guess they will have to ask the CIA now to apologize to Nancy. Let's see how this plays on Fair and Balanced News?
Rich
Given that CIA has not changed one iota since the Church Committee revelations of CIA's truly amazing incompetence, it would be easier to count the number of times CIA told the truth to Congress. One should simply assume that CIA is lying any time it says anything (this is especially true about the DCIA).
USA
This is a monstrous crow all the rethuglicans have to eat. I hope they choke on it!
Nat
Hey Sen. McConnell.Hey Sen.Bonehead.Ihope someone crams this report down your throat. The CIA DID LIE. Plain and simple. The CIA DID LIE
Robert
the CIA lied people died? CIA missed 9/11, got the WMD intell wrong and 'caused' the Iraqi invasion (according to the bushies) and now the CIA lied to Congress? Abolish the CIA it does not work and it is dangerously incompetent. What else can we conclude?
PELOSI WAS RIGHT!
And FOX won't report on it because they are a right wing propaganda outlet.OH SO FAIR AND BALANCED! MY BUTTOX!!
Aunty
I demand an apology from everyone out there who questioned Ms. Pelosi's statement that the CIA withheld information. Any Republican sympathizer commenting on this topic must start with such an apology or their comments carry no weight.
VALIDATION FOR PELOSI
Democrats on the Intelligence Committee have concluded that the CIA did not fully inform Congress about the use of enhanced interrogation techniques during a September 2002 briefing. The new report seemingly validates House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) claim earlier this year that she was lied to about the program.
HEED THIS!!
Gingrich also lashed out at his critics. "If some people in the Republican Party want to go around the country purging everyone they disagree with, they're going to rapidly make this a minority party for a generation.
LISTEN UP RIGHTWING RADICALS!!!
On Sunday, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich expressed concern with the latest Weekly Standard cover that identifies Limbaugh, Beck, and former Alaska governor Sarah Palin as the faces of the GOP. "You know, you can have a very, very intense movement of 20 percent," Gingrich argued, referring to their respective bases of support, adding, "[but] you can't govern." Indeed, Gingrich has been making the very same arguments in a new intramural dispute over which conservative candidate to support in New York's 23rd Congressional District special election coming up next month -- a dispute that has split various factions within the conservative movement.
TELL*IT*LIKE*IT*IS!
"...perhaps if were were not always trying to clean up Africa and Asia, our health parameters would appear ok." ************************* Perhaps if we were not spending billions of dollars on two wars (one for no reason at all), we could provide affordable health care and quality education for those in THIS country who are in need.
TELL*IT*LIKE*IT*IS!
"Because Jesus does not want us to idolize and worship being poor. There are those who are poor due to circumstances and those who are 'professionally' poor. Jesus admonished his disciples that the 'poor' are with you always." *************** I hardly think helping those less fortunate is considered idolizing or worshiping being poor. Will you tell me the scripture where Jesus admonished his disciples that the 'poor' are with you always. 1 John 3:17-18 - "If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth."
InGodWeTrust???
"...so Jesus would be opposed to everyone in the USA having healthcare????????" *********************Matthew 25:44-46 - “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’ “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”
TELL*IT*LIKE*IT*IS!
For almost a century, presidents and members of Congress have tried and failed to provide universal health benefits to Americans. The cost of health care has spiraled; in 2008, one in six dollars was spent on health care, and an estimated 46 million people were without coverage.
Auntie
We've talked about the US health care ranking before. You have to look at what they are using to determine how every country ranks, NOT just the number.
LOL
Pam & Sydney, I dont want a replica of Canada's or Britain's healthcare, but I hate to say it...theres is STILL better than ours.